i come from a family who values journalists for humanity - i like china's tian wei, and i find japanese nhk english channel journalists put the bbc to shake- a huge pity as its the biggest ever investment in media owned by the people- as for americans daring to see the world from all lives matter i can recommend checking out robert kuhn's curiosity - for over 20 years closer to the future of everything on pbs as well as china on cgtn
leaders of places who on racist grounds prevent studying something that works to save human lives need to be cast aside if our species is to be sustainable - learn what effective virus tracing takes in a nation with 1.5 billion people and about 16 borders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfNcXjhMfvw tian wei interview jun 2020 with a government engineer
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welcome back this is a world insight: i'm tian wei; China seeks to jumpstart the economy with the so called the new infrastructure - a pump priming effort to get people back to work
unlike traditional infrastructure such as railways highways and airports this celebrates infrastructure such as data centers -
TIAN Wei @tianwei
Based in Beijing, Fmr. Washington Correspondent, now Anchor of TV show "World Insight", Young Global Leader
earlier I talked to Professor Joe Hammond the standing committee member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference our CPPCC, he's also the vice chairman of China national democratic construction Association: he said we were entering the data era and
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how is China gonna do it let's listen
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you are very concerned about how the
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system work in terms of contact tracing
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you propose the green tag which we have
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now on our mobile phone and hope that
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could be the way tell me more about that
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all right
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people are very creative you're in the
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whole process of fighting against virus
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we will use the internet to contact
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people to release necessary information
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and also to give pre warnings of all the
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things should be warm to people however
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such kind of very important
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infrastructure based upon data is also a
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big concern people because people think
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about the protection of privacy of
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citizens I think this is truly need to
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be raised that's why during the previous
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two sessions
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I personally proposed we need to speed
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up the implication of the legal system
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for protection of data online and this
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time I proposed again in another way
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because now we have a new term they're
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all used in China we call new
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infrastructure constructions frankly
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it's a kind of construction of
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infrastructure itself however at the
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same time it's brand-new and that's why
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I proposed that we need to first work
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out a standards for such kinds of new
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construction offer infrastructure
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secondly to build up new legal framework
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to protect the privacy of citizens and
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thirdly those enterprises involving in
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the construction themselves should have
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a kind of decent ethics they need to
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follow as enterprises only with all
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joint efforts in those three ways I
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think we can find these solutions mr.
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Cho talked about the legal framework now
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how far are we from that legal framework
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you talked about protecting people's
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rights while at the same time make sure
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at a time of public health crisis we can
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use this tool well so how far are we
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from that legal system so far as legal
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system is concerned we started from
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almost nothing when the opening the
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policy adopted in 1978 through the very
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I will say big efforts by the People's
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Congress and all related fields of
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people a legal framework is there at
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this time a very big issue on the agenda
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for both People's Congress and CPPCC is
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a passing of course by the National
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People's Congress the first Civil Code
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of China
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after the formation of the People's
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Republic this civil code in the only
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piece of law in China up to today
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were they the framework as a code
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it's a code meaning it should be
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covering all necessary areas possible
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for instance in protection of property
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no matter is realistic it's no Mobile's
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or mobile properties or intellectual
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properties the issues of wills it issues
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marriage the issues of protection on the
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very basis of ports so and so forth all
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those are legal terms including a well
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protection of privacy of those
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information used by internet so my
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answer to your question is first the
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legal framework is there secondly it
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needs very big amplification yourself
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sterling we need something new for
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instance be personal information going
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through the internet is something to be
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protected and up to today there's a
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moral law more than meaning in coverage
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the degree of authority all there is
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a law for the protection of private
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information as fight EU I think EU this
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very interesting and important piece of
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legislation could be not something we
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just take as granted but it takes
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seriously and we will well use illegal
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doctrines there for a part of the
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thinking of a legislation
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as a result of the pandemic and also
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trade wars we've seen the economy's
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future uncertain even though we are very
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confident about the potential mr. Joe
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about that area do you have some
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insights to share with us a pandemic is
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the most serious issue or human beings
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some people quote another kind of world
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war without visible enemies I do agree
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he had an ik will go on for certain pair
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of a time days weeks months or years
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frankly no one knows of course there are
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five types of technical approach to
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conduct research and the production of
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vaccines still only with a human use
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could we understand and realize which
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one is truly valuable and useful in
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their sense we need to put the control
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of the expression of the virus together
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with the protection of the health of
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human beings
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into a mind as a long-term battle it's a
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long-term battle then we need to very
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well try our best to reopen a society
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not as status quo but as a protected
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society that's why in such a battlefield
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we have two battles the first period is
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we'll use all resources necessary to
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fight against the expression of the
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virus in a second we use all the means
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to reopen a market to rejuven isle nice
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bitty economy only in that way I will
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say people can feel it's still a hope
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and hope is to help us
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[Music]
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on today's world inside right young
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Chinese fresh out of college
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many will receive how are they coping to
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the global crisis their career prospects
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and sacrifice to their own word in
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today's edition jobs the big tech and I
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know how much in instant so I have to
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advocate and helping them
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[Music]
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hello I'm Kim way and this is world
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insight in Beijing the uncertainty is
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the logic of a world today and things
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have becoming particularly challenging
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with Kobe 19 this is a difficult year
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for all of us but have you ever imagined
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what about those graduating from
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University this year this is exactly the
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first chapter of real life they have to
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face what are they thinking and how are
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they planning for their future there's
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no better way than directly talking to
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some of them and looking for answers
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that's why I'm here in this tiny startup
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company inside Beijing it is run by
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several students fresh out of university
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specializing in providing financial
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services to Chinese overseas students in
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Europe or America however with the
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pandemic the students have all come back
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to China at least some of them and the
01:54
market is gone so how are they going to
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cope with the realities and how do they
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plan for their future let's to talk to
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some of them and find out
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[Music]
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so this is your place yeah we're trying
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to move into the other place since right
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now like this whole office mix only can
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take two how many people's I think so
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for next step we're trying to get a
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place that can hold around 300 to 350
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people so your energy yeah it's hard I
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mean like in pasta like here they try to
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extend the business like like you're
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trying to get more white but like inside
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right now they think the stay focused I
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make the right choice yourself going
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wider they try to go deeper and in this
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way actually
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luckily profit more and acquiring one
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users though yeah so this is the yeah so
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this room like after like two months ago
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like so at that time I barely use that
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so I go out messaging together to
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discuss like you know Jesse is a partner
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okay so all girlfriends become partners
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all the friends become partners yeah but
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would that be more challenging we don't
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working together you know different
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sides of being a friend yes always
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it's a big part of our life my relation
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four hours a day
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yes yes that's PEC a friendship yeah we
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tore this thing office like for Linux
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that every single day it's like never
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leave until 12 o'clock
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his mom's business this is I mean like
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for the original like this is my model
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Thank You beanie actually shift a little
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bit so like in the past they only think
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about tuition payments no this is life
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but start by last year you know not only
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Vista comment like your situation but
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they actually found that the
05:33
relationship between US and China got
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more like the tensions between us I'm
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trying to get more like stress also like
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we can shift the focus not only stay in
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the US but also expand the business into
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the other countries okay yeah yeah yeah
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so right now we are supporting like 17
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countries yes
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yeah yeah like we use like we're going
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to run the like yet the teach like an
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army but like we like it and I like like
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a you know time we actually might know
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based on management book I'm you know
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like the Chinese entrepreneurs like they
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are really good at reading books
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so like it'd be to take some like
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classes and the reader page yeah yeah I
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know that you guys work very hard and I
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know you have also gathered some of your
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friends yes so thank you for arranging
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all these details for coming
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[Music]
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okay so so glad to have all of you here
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with us
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maybe you want to introduce yourself one
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by one toy hey guys I'm told me uh just
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taking a gap year from Harvard Business
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School and right now my friends and I
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are studying up company in the et
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transfer in Beijing and they were able
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to help all the international students
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better to paying their tuitions on
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blogger hello everyone my name is Roger
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and I graduated from Cornell University
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last summer and now I'm I'm in charge of
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the educational institute that in the
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help help overseas students
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transitioning into their role back to
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China and that's what I've been doing
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the past couple of months are you two
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competitors in the way of the world also
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friends at the same time Wow okay
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Phillips higher why my name is Felix I
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just recorded from Columbia University
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this summer and I'm working in the Sonia
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heel-toe I'm Peter
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I just graduated from London Business
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School and now I'm a investment banker
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in China in the International Capital
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Group you're already an investment
08:22
banker the first year coming into the
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company yeah I'm trying to try and be
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trying to be a real one Cecilia hey guys
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I'm Cecilia currently graduated from
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Oxford studying geography and currently
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I'm focusing on doing social
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entrepreneurship education access and
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using media to break that information
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barrier
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okay good to see you Jesse Lohr one long
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time no see yeah Laura I'm Jessie I
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graduated from Cornell University last
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year didn't choose to go to any graduate
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school but joining in easy transfer the
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FinTech company with Tony as his partner
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a side of work also devote my time in my
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NGO Providence Academy to encourage
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overseas student come back to China for
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work or entrepreneurship
09:10
also introducing the development and
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current trends are China to oversee
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student community it's the easy to make
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an impact things are changing so much
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it's changing a lot especially for this
09:27
year you know because the epidemic
09:30
caused a lot of troubles for students to
09:33
travel across the borders but also see
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this as opportunity because we can more
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chance to study online to gain knowledge
09:43
from zoom from thing talk or any other
09:46
platforms I think knowledge should not
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have boundaries and it's opportunity for
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us to cooperate with other universities
09:56
or scholars from other countries to
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develop how we can learn more from each
10:03
others and I think it's a crisis also an
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opportunity for all of us yeah Tony
10:08
obviously our business partner is doing
10:10
good PR obviously so what about I heard
10:15
you screaming oh in the meeting room
10:18
before we start shooting here I'm sure
10:22
that a lot of tough issues you have to
10:23
handle together with Jesse and others
10:25
every day tell me more about that
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yes wholly like I mean like in the past
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like when they talk about like a
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start-up well things like you're going
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really white so we're going to like to
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order like your products going to like
10:39
so the products are globally to every
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single country but now like the
10:43
situation has totally changed so we have
10:45
to instead of going really why we have
10:47
to go really deep so like we have to
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actually spend the money in the red spot
10:51
instead of like you're trying to like
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conquer everything that's the situation
10:57
the problem where are you put your money
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Roger
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where do I put my money I believe in the
11:03
current situation obviously many of the
11:05
customers are in the Rick's risk-averse
11:08
situation right they tend to look at
11:10
things in a different perspective of
11:11
medical vat19 situation so if I have to
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do things and as currently I'm planning
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for my company to invest all the
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possible resources into one thing and
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I'm a firm believer for the fact that a
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good product can sell itself now saying
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that we shouldn't do business
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development now saying that we shouldn't
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go on coke all people but I think the
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core value of any business in the
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strengths that is able to elaborate is
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through its good product so if I have to
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choose in the current situation I'll
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rather do one thing really well instead
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of going really wide on different tasks
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similar to what Tony's said about just
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now well see how things
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Phenix I think it's totally new life and
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new change for me it's totally different
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with what I stay in the university so
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and our goals is a to be the investor of
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the beautiful life so this is a new
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change for me to how to feel and
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peaceful life and how we can change the
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peaceful life is sounds very
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inspirational Cecilia would that be a
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good line already for your mini video
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yeah invest in abuse live so tell me
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more about how you are fitting in I
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guess throughout University I've tried
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out a few different industries and
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careers and when I actually got my
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full-time offer I felt a bit lost so I
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kind of wanted to look for what's the
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actual meaning of life guys that laughs
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and I realized the thing that's change
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me the most is education and I also
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acknowledge that I've been lucky enough
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to have that access to education where
12:56
many people don't and so for me I want
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to do my bits and make education more
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accessible for everybody so that's why
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and I've been part of the mentor and
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mentee ship as well as using social
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media as a way to advance to break
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identity wilderness you see wilderness
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you see yeah yeah yeah
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that's why I've been part of the social
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enterprise where there's going to be 80
13:26
mentors who are helping as many mentees
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as possible who's I'm just part of the
13:30
big game Congrats
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I'm also Peter yeah I heard you are also
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in the investment bank or on your way
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there yeah well we're there we actually
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started work from 9:00 a.m. every day to
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like 4:00 a.m. probably and that and
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then go sleep and start late
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did you like it no it's not around I
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mean I don't I don't quite like it but I
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have to accept it and because that's the
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job I choose that's what I have to do
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what's it for then for helping great
14:06
companies grow for for for the for my
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dream come true
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to do that to help like Green US
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companies to enter Chinese market -
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that's how like finance do you know when
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I look at you and hearing your stories I
14:23
feel inspired but at the same time I do
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have empathy toward where you are today
14:30
Jesse before we sat down you are telling
14:33
me about your last night's conversation
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yeah going back to Ground Zero almost in
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a way so tell me more about that yeah
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like we were sitting there yesterday
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we're talking about this year's our
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marketing it's like everything gonna
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have to start over because the previous
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business model for us it's not exist
14:59
anymore because of the epidemic how come
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we are because everybody is doing social
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distancing with each other and we cannot
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do the the former our business model to
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sell our product I know one major
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problem for
15:17
the overseas thing right now is they
15:18
cannot get off China or they cannot get
15:21
back to China right now because of the
15:23
travel beds so were still trying to
15:27
figure out what's the best solutions for
15:29
us but that's a dilemma for all of the
15:33
companies and all of the young students
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they cannot get back to their family or
15:37
they have huge trouble with their visas
15:40
that is with their graduation with their
15:44
internship a lot of problems fall of us
15:47
so it's probably the most challenging
15:50
it's time for Chinese international
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students it's so hard yeah
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Tony yeah really hard no like I mean
15:58
like if we were we were sitting here
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last night and we're saying that like
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not only the channels of like apparel
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users but also like the target audience
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cool so in the past we don't move beyond
16:09
anything about international Chinese
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students but the problem is right now
16:13
like your students they are getting
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really hard for them to get back to the
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US or get back to China so we have to
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like extend the target audience group to
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like a whole like University students
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instead of focusing on like your one
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country itself I think I see a lot of
16:29
like a service provider in the industry
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they try to like make some change like
16:33
by the beginning of this year but like
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you're now like not only for us but for
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a whole industry it's been like it's so
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hard we have to kinda redo everything so
16:42
your outreach is already there very
16:45
grounded but now that has totally
16:47
changed
16:48
Roget right I I will I will agree the
16:51
fact that the way we do business were
16:53
even the way we interact as people has
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revolutionized in the past couple of
16:56
months and of course that's been
16:58
difficult so I try to find time to cry
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but in the meantime in the meantime I
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understand that let's together time to
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cry but barely barely but I I don't show
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in front of people in this time is it
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provides the opportunity for
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self-reflection so if you can't go out
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and and get the money that you want then
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you put yourself in the position where
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you redesign your product and you think
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of the thing that Plan B's and plan sees
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in order to counter the future I
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expected
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and I think in that way you can find I
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try to find inner peace in a way knowing
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that I shall have the best product so
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when the Albertini doesn't rise and when
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the cycle does go goes up when when it
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hits rock bottom and I'll see the
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opportunity that I that I deserve so
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that's how I make peace with it right
17:44
the three of you are entrepreneurs so
17:46
are you right so see the entrepreneur
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social entrepreneur exactly so what
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about the business that you are in right
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now I would assume extremely competitive
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it's obviously in the media industries
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really saturated and within the charity
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landscape the capital is pretty dry but
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what we can do is to link the two things
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together using medias the means being
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able to promote information and being
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able to break down the information
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barriers as a way to do the social
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enterprise I can feel how you're
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pitching your project we very much
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I mean it's a good project yeah oh it
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sounds good what about for the to love
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you I mean they are starting their own
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businesses but the two of you are
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joining a company you know I think the
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challenge is the same but of different
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nature so tell me more about that
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challenge that part the most difficult
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challenge for me was still paying the
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crew and I had to be the one to fit in
18:43
their atmosphere and they're working you
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know schedules their way of doing out
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things and that's the difficult part for
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me I think which part
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as a student I have my free time to do
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things that that I like I have to play
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basketball you know electronic music but
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as investment banker you have to work
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all day long and yeah and they're
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working off most various like ii just
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working hard no play hard you know you
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don't have the time to play hard and
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that's the that's the difficult part for
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me to get adjusted
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Phenix i remember seeing your photo in
19:27
your friend circle you are in those you
19:30
know jumping suit in a way medical
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jumping suit and big suitcase in the
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hand coming back to china and you said
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finally am back
19:41
obviously you were looking forward to a
19:43
new life a new starting point but how is
19:46
that starting point fitting you right
19:48
now so after I come back I think the
19:51
better way it's just a get into a new
19:54
company to start a new life because of
19:56
University and who the college life is
19:58
just so very different very different
20:01
so how Chi is a work with our College
20:05
how can work with my boss how can learn
20:07
from the process totally different with
20:10
me and other people Peter and has given
20:13
up basketball at least for now
20:16
yeah what about You Felix I keep out the
20:21
clumpy good K out the study if I start a
20:26
new study study difference
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nice to hear all of your stories
20:38
reminds me also of my you know
20:41
graduation days and my typical they are
20:44
feeding into the society but at the same
20:46
time you enjoying an exhilarating trip
20:47
in a way right having said that though
20:51
you know I grew up during the 1980s and
20:56
90s and I feel my life it's like going
21:00
up all the time and the world is getting
21:02
ever bigger for me but you guys when you
21:06
were born the world is already very open
21:08
up to you and you've got the best
21:10
opportunity for education again now just
21:13
when you start your career the world has
21:17
become more divided and the doors are
21:20
closed this is totally different from I
21:23
guess the logic of your educational
21:27
years so how does that work for you are
21:30
you struggling with this I am struggling
21:32
with this Tony yeah like yeah I mean you
21:36
have to be really good in the past I
21:38
mean like all the people like when they
21:40
think about doing business they they're
21:42
all like trying to find opportunities
21:43
for example like people are saying that
21:46
copy form kind of hobby form America in
21:48
the past but now like they're like each
21:51
country's people are doing they're like
21:53
on jobs instead of like extending of
21:55
business globally though so like in like
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if you want to like leave work while
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like you have to actually be super good
22:02
be a pro in the industry and you're
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because it's so competitive so
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competitive yeah you have to compete
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with like all the tycoons like every
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single day and I mean that part is like
22:13
much harder compared to the past I mean
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your business part of it
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Alibaba is also covering that area yeah
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are you saying Tony let me compete with
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you Jack Ma we are where they're
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competing though like yeah I mean like a
22:28
leap a enter into the market this year
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like three months ago and by that's how
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I'm like we fell like a big pressure
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though and you could tell like all the
22:38
team members they are like your kind
22:40
worried even like anxious about the
22:42
conversation but like in my perspective
22:45
actually like commutation did not only
22:48
bring the harmful things but also like a
22:51
bring the like a more of you exactly
22:55
like they they were motivate the whole
22:56
team though so you know it used to be so
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cool let's have an entrepreneurship
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right hmm but now it's about survival
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yeah every day Roger I I'm a strong
23:08
believer of business cycles believing
23:11
that every fifteen to twenty years the
23:14
cycle goes up and down and there's new
23:16
opportunities being come across during
23:18
these cycles and III tend to look at the
23:21
current situation has the market not
23:23
being lethargic but more so more mature
23:27
more educated market where the consumers
23:31
are confronted with similar products but
23:34
with the different edge in the sense
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that drives us being the the product
23:39
creator to to to listen more to the
23:43
customers and then to do more
23:45
self-reflection in a way so that we can
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we can out-compete others or even to
23:50
even to occupy a very minimum share of
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the market but I understand having a
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broader picture I think it creates a
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great opportunity for us to be getting
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more more mature after graduation facing
24:00
all the obstacles and hurdles I think it
24:04
is only opportunity to us because to be
24:06
honest we have nothing to lose at this
24:08
very moment very very that's the other
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side of this picture right that's a
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brighter picture right exactly think
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about what's on how you look at it right
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right and that's important how you look
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at it general it's acedia yeah for sure
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I guess obviously we're Carly in an era
24:23
of globalization right and for me
24:27
initially I was part of initiative that
24:29
does fundraising in London and helps
24:32
Asian women and to be well asian girls
24:34
to be able to access education but
24:37
currently if you look at situation UK
24:39
who's got that spare cash
24:41
people are facing and unemployment all
24:44
these difficulties so at this situation
24:46
you got to pick your own fights right
24:48
what's the most important to me and
24:49
what's actually feasible so I guess
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where I find the most belonging is in my
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own country in China and who I relate to
24:56
the most is the maybe the village of
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girls in China and so I've changed jog
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Rafi and that's why I still do it oh yes
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the coronavirus has put international
25:06
barriers up but because of the internet
25:08
allows you to be able to migrate from
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one daughter fee to another
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mm-hmm and so of course there's going to
25:14
be difficulties and there are but its
25:17
ability to work with what you have and
25:19
how you can adapt to the markets and
25:21
utilizing combining different sources
25:24
and tools together to achieve the end so
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it's a process earlier to explore about
25:29
the outside world now it's a process of
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exploring what you have back at home yes
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I think one a very unique point for me
25:37
to get back to China and start of our
25:40
own business is that I can actually
25:42
learn from my team in China and my
25:46
colleagues what was different cultural
25:49
background when I come back China I'm
25:52
not surprised that people in my company
25:56
they're like really different walks of
26:00
life people are from like different
26:02
cultural backgrounds many of us they
26:04
never get the opportunity to travel
26:07
outside of China but we're together
26:09
working on our same tasks and we share
26:12
our same mission ambition and it's very
26:15
intriguing for me because I get a chance
26:19
to really know about China to know about
26:21
different groups of Chinese that's
26:24
that's I don't have that opportunity
26:26
when I was in America so if you're
26:29
friends you know who used to be your
26:31
classmates or roommate asked you so what
26:34
about China this sounds like a very
26:37
simple question isn't it I mean so many
26:39
people ask us all that all the time but
26:41
now I guess it's a very different way of
26:44
King out this question so what about
26:45
China what would you say to them I would
26:49
say we are trying to let the world know
26:53
more about China because in the process
26:56
of China's rising we need more people to
26:59
understand China and the world to engage
27:02
in this process and that's the first
27:04
thing
27:05
Chinese we're welcoming and second is
27:06
China is very diverse because we have
27:09
what Beijing or Shanghai of Hangzhou is
27:13
very right develop the regions but we
27:16
also have many bridges that are
27:18
relatively unprivileged what the country
27:22
size we have the deep mountain and
27:25
diverse regions the diversity we got a
27:29
lot to explore even for Chinese we got a
27:32
lot to explore and then I would say
27:36
China is how to say China will be more
27:42
and more active in the international
27:46
society will shoulder more
27:48
responsibilities around the goal because
27:51
somebody will see the Potomac as a
27:54
beginning of the globalization but half
27:56
hour opposite opinion I would say it's
28:01
also a great opportunity for China to be
28:05
more open and to share more with the
28:08
world because we are seeing that China
28:10
is sharing they're sharing our
28:13
experience of containing the virus we
28:16
are sharing our RMD about the vaccine
28:19
we're sharing were donating medical
28:24
supplies protective masks to all of the
28:27
countries that's what we didn't do a lot
28:30
before the pandemic but it's a great
28:33
start for China to do it right now we
28:35
are taking more responsibility we're
28:36
starting to taking the lead as a
28:40
responsible country you know because
28:43
China is trying to make sure the border
28:46
are safe at this point of a pandemic and
28:49
therefore people the number of them be
28:52
able to come back will be limited
28:54
however they're enormous
28:56
numbers of the Chinese overseas students
28:59
who want to come back and join their
29:00
family during a difficult time so here
29:03
comes a difficult choice Roger I have
29:07
seen all the facts and then I've read
29:08
news and there are certainly criticisms
29:10
about China in the past couple month but
29:13
I tend to look at things in the brighter
29:14
side we are more more so becoming a
29:17
center stage in the international stage
29:18
what we do well how we behave in
29:20
international behavior in the natural
29:23
circumstances determines a lot of the
29:25
actions of the other countries tend to
29:27
do things like you can't completely
29:29
blame our China for not having people
29:31
coming back United Airline Kenzo there
29:33
there flies first among all the airlines
29:36
and many of the international flights
29:38
canceled even before the outbreak of
29:39
cholera virus so I think what we're
29:42
doing here is that although many of the
29:45
blame are not landing upon us we decided
29:48
to step step up and take on the plane
29:50
and saying that it is our responsibility
29:52
being a great nation at all to help
29:54
those who are in need and especially
29:56
there are all Chinese citizens and I
29:58
think it is a slow process it's a
30:00
meandering process but I think we're
30:02
making good efforts we say Robertson
30:05
sorry in China so you're not worried
30:06
although I'm here many of my family
30:09
members of still oversea and many of my
30:11
enduring friends are still overseas so I
30:13
I do worry about from time to time
30:15
knowing the fact that there's only a
30:17
limited amount of flights coming home
30:19
but at the same time right if you look
30:22
at it in a macro perspective while we
30:24
are now being able to transfer transport
30:26
them back to China we're shipping tons
30:29
and tons of medical supplies using the
30:31
biggest planes that we ever possibly
30:33
could acquire to support those who are
30:35
in need when I was in college I was a
30:37
part of the student organization called
30:40
CSS day the China student scholar
30:41
Association and I'm being constant
30:44
contact wisdom lately and knowing the
30:46
fact that they with collaborations with
30:49
the embassies in Washington DC
30:52
they have shipped out more than 10,000
30:55
supplies of medical supplies masks and
30:58
anti anti virus wipes - who - the
31:02
students who are still on campus so
31:04
there are absolutely efforts being made
31:05
and the media tend to focus on the
31:08
negatives
31:09
because that's where the story comes
31:10
from but if you have come down to the to
31:13
a personal contact to the personal
31:15
connection of things you've seen their
31:17
enormous effort being made so silly I
31:19
think it's true and I think what we need
31:21
to remember is that these are
31:22
unprecedented times we're going to use
31:26
the similar strategy to solve everything
31:28
so I think both in terms of China and
31:31
different organisation on the world
31:32
we're trying our best I'm moving at the
31:34
fast speed as we can and there will be
31:36
learning curves but whenever something
31:38
like this happen again we will be better
31:39
to fight the battle mm-hmm Peter yeah
31:43
definitely I I totally agree with Roger
31:45
and also I actually just got back from
31:49
UK at an end after of the join and that
31:56
was a hard trip but I totally understand
31:58
what's the situation
32:00
I would rather like trust so like in
32:03
different situation you have to trust
32:05
like all the people in the right
32:06
position making the right like at
32:09
decisions and that will make everyone
32:11
life much easier though so stop
32:13
questioning just like your own heart but
32:16
what you have learned on University
32:18
campus it's about critical thinking yeah
32:21
you are saying stop questioning I mean
32:23
like this goes against at least
32:25
superficially what you learned not quite
32:28
the same though like he's all like any
32:29
more about that if you're only thinking
32:31
about yourself then like you everything
32:34
like you you will start like your play
32:36
more like your question other like
32:37
decisions well like if you think you're
32:41
will the whole problems in the level of
32:43
the whole country that actually will
32:45
change a lot of yourself so you have to
32:48
actually position yourself in the right
32:50
spot I feel like all the decisions will
32:53
make the reasons well you're a
32:55
struggling many of our peers in the US
32:57
or in the UK are also struggling in a
32:59
different way about different issues you
33:02
saw the demonstrations black lives
33:04
matter how do you make of those things
33:06
that are happening parallel to your life
33:10
here Roger
33:12
there are two things I like to throw how
33:13
is the first is social social certainty
33:17
also at the same time phrase
33:19
change right and there's a with the
33:21
situation would be facing all around the
33:23
world changes definitely had to be made
33:25
rather it is pushed by the people war is
33:27
it legislations or other related areas
33:29
so looking at social stability because
33:33
purely in constant fear and constant
33:34
panic I think it was a natural reaction
33:36
in addition to that I think social
33:39
changes is how the entire society move
33:42
forward and because just and also
33:45
because people are saying at home not
33:47
having many things to do and our
33:48
employments I record-high they were able
33:51
to have this time for self-reflection no
33:53
thinking about what could the society to
33:55
be better I'm at the same time me being
33:57
a part of the society what can I do more
33:59
of course Eredar that violence being
34:01
involved but but that that's just a sigh
34:04
politics of changes okay right now the
34:08
the whole humanity is facing three major
34:11
challenges the first is a topic
34:13
challenge and then the second is social
34:16
turbulence as you said and the third one
34:19
is the downwards of economy these are
34:24
challenges shared by all humankind
34:26
although is probably safer and a more
34:31
peaceful in China but all of us should
34:34
also have to empathy to the other parts
34:38
where people are suffering because we
34:43
are all part of this this bigger
34:46
community I'm sure you have much better
34:49
idea about how things are but I'm
34:51
struggling every day that you know what
34:53
we have learned over the years probably
34:56
even decade about you know globalization
34:58
about everybody has equal opportunities
35:01
about you know diversity about freedom
35:06
and are these just preaching of ideas to
35:11
us or are these like real fundamental
35:16
values that we should all no matter
35:19
under what circumstances should strive
35:22
for you know at a time of survival
35:25
people show their true colors
35:29
either it's rock-bottom or it's pretty
35:33
inspiring I don't know what you think
35:37
about that but I'm struggling with it so
35:40
see I did i express myself clearly I
35:42
think there's a lot of nuances to unpack
35:45
and globalization definitely came with
35:48
its own agenda I think on the road to
35:53
more equality and being able to produce
35:57
opportunities for people from different
35:59
geographies different backgrounds that's
36:01
an endless journey and so I actually
36:04
believe every change what witnessing
36:07
right now is going to create a better
36:09
future whether that's in public health
36:11
emergency responses and as you were
36:13
mentioning the black life matters
36:14
movement is a deep inequality that
36:17
happens I'm sure everyone here when
36:19
we're studying internationally with face
36:21
races experiences right and so it's
36:25
something that we've been part of and
36:27
now in some ways obviously I don't
36:28
promote violent protests but I think
36:31
these changes are happening you're good
36:32
and and eventually it will bring a
36:35
better outcome
36:36
I hope so Peter yeah definitely they all
36:40
say we have lots of control over you
36:42
know people during the time but when the
36:46
epidemic happens china was actually the
36:48
quickest and the first country to
36:51
control the epidemic but even us people
36:55
are fighting for their freedom they
36:58
don't want to self isolating their whole
37:00
and they don't want to you know
37:03
information track about their about
37:06
their locations but when that happened
37:08
we can see in the US that that rate is
37:11
really high right now and the the damage
37:13
is really hard to control so that
37:16
actually leads me to think about what
37:19
the democracy or the communist that
37:21
remains I'm not sure whether that equals
37:23
to a communism or democracy
37:28
maybe it's relevant in the way what's
37:31
your plan let's just say over the rest
37:35
of this year Roger for short-term calls
37:38
just stay alive right
37:39
at the same time it's definitely
37:42
uncertain times so what I'm trying to do
37:44
is to enjoy failure and try to learn
37:46
something from it so when the next time
37:48
when the cycle goes down once again I
37:51
think I'll be ready for the rest of my
37:52
life
37:53
isn't he a sunshine gentleman well I'm
37:56
just trying to put that positive energy
37:58
out there going even like nowadays when
38:01
we start up the business like my like
38:04
original like your dream job was like a
38:06
becoming teacher though so I want to
38:08
actually influence more people helping
38:10
more people like and students though so
38:12
I feel like all my team members as my
38:14
students so like it for the next year or
38:16
two like I want to actually need more
38:19
students like they most of them choose
38:22
our company as they are forces stopped
38:24
right after graduation and I know how
38:26
much it means to them so I have to
38:29
actually change the moment and helping
38:32
them more yeah cherish the moment you're
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