how china is using app to contain virus

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leaders of places who on racist grounds prevent studying something that works to save human lives need to be cast aside if our species is to be sustainable - learn what effective virus tracing takes in a nation with 1.5 billion people and about 16 borders  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfNcXjhMfvw

 tian wei interview jun 2020 with a government engineer


00:00 welcome back this is a world insight: i'm  tian wei; China seeks to jumpstart the  economy with the so called the new infrastructure  - a pump priming effort to get people back to  work

 unlike traditional infrastructure such as railways highways and airports this celebrates infrastructure such as data centers -

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earlier I talked to Professor Joe  Hammond the standing committee member of  the Chinese People's Political  Consultative Conference our CPPCC, he's  also the vice chairman of China national  democratic construction Association: he said we were entering the data era and 00:37 how is China gonna do it let's listen 00:43 you are very concerned about how the 00:45 system work in terms of contact tracing 00:49 you propose the green tag which we have 00:53 now on our mobile phone and hope that 00:56 could be the way tell me more about that 01:00 all right 01:02 people are very creative you're in the 01:06 whole process of fighting against virus 01:10 we will use the internet to contact 01:16 people to release necessary information 01:20 and also to give pre warnings of all the 01:28 things should be warm to people however 01:32 such kind of very important 01:36 infrastructure based upon data is also a 01:42 big concern people because people think 01:46 about the protection of privacy of 01:50 citizens I think this is truly need to 01:55 be raised that's why during the previous 01:59 two sessions 02:01 I personally proposed we need to speed 02:07 up the implication of the legal system 02:12 for protection of data online and this 02:17 time I proposed again in another way 02:22 because now we have a new term they're 02:25 all used in China we call new 02:29 infrastructure constructions frankly 02:33 it's a kind of construction of 02:36 infrastructure itself however at the 02:39 same time it's brand-new and that's why 02:45 I proposed that we need to first work 02:52 out a standards for such kinds of new 02:56 construction offer infrastructure 02:58 secondly to build up new legal framework 03:04 to protect the privacy of citizens and 03:08 thirdly those enterprises involving in 03:13 the construction themselves should have 03:16 a kind of decent ethics they need to 03:21 follow as enterprises only with all 03:25 joint efforts in those three ways I 03:28 think we can find these solutions mr. 03:32 Cho talked about the legal framework now 03:35 how far are we from that legal framework 03:38 you talked about protecting people's 03:40 rights while at the same time make sure 03:42 at a time of public health crisis we can 03:45 use this tool well so how far are we 03:48 from that legal system so far as legal 03:52 system is concerned we started from 03:55 almost nothing when the opening the 03:58 policy adopted in 1978 through the very 04:05 I will say big efforts by the People's 04:11 Congress and all related fields of 04:15 people a legal framework is there at 04:20 this time a very big issue on the agenda 04:24 for both People's Congress and CPPCC is 04:29 a passing of course by the National 04:32 People's Congress the first Civil Code 04:35 of China 04:37 after the formation of the People's 04:40 Republic this civil code in the only 04:46 piece of law in China up to today 04:49 were they the framework as a code 04:54 it's a code meaning it should be 05:02 covering all necessary areas possible 05:09 for instance in protection of property 05:14 no matter is realistic it's no Mobile's 05:22 or mobile properties or intellectual 05:28 properties the issues of wills it issues 05:38 marriage the issues of protection on the 05:43 very basis of ports so and so forth all 05:47 those are legal terms including a well 05:51 protection of privacy of those 05:56 information used by internet so my 06:03 answer to your question is first the 06:06 legal framework is there secondly it 06:09 needs very big amplification yourself 06:13 sterling we need something new for 06:16 instance be personal information going 06:21 through the internet is something to be 06:25 protected and up to today there's a 06:29 moral law more than meaning in coverage 06:33 the degree of authority all there is 06:40 a law for the protection of private 06:43 information as fight EU I think EU this 06:49 very interesting and important piece of 06:53 legislation could be not something we 06:58 just take as granted but it takes 07:03 seriously and we will well use illegal 07:07 doctrines there for a part of the 07:11 thinking of a legislation 07:16 as a result of the pandemic and also 07:20 trade wars we've seen the economy's 07:22 future uncertain even though we are very 07:25 confident about the potential mr. Joe 07:28 about that area do you have some 07:31 insights to share with us a pandemic is 07:37 the most serious issue or human beings 07:44 some people quote another kind of world 07:51 war without visible enemies I do agree 07:59 he had an ik will go on for certain pair 08:04 of a time days weeks months or years 08:12 frankly no one knows of course there are 08:18 five types of technical approach to 08:24 conduct research and the production of 08:29 vaccines still only with a human use 08:38 could we understand and realize which 08:43 one is truly valuable and useful in 08:48 their sense we need to put the control 08:55 of the expression of the virus together 09:00 with the protection of the health of 09:02 human beings 09:04 into a mind as a long-term battle it's a 09:11 long-term battle then we need to very 09:16 well try our best to reopen a society 09:23 not as status quo but as a protected 09:28 society that's why in such a battlefield 09:34 we have two battles the first period is 09:39 we'll use all resources necessary to 09:43 fight against the expression of the 09:45 virus in a second we use all the means 09:50 to reopen a market to rejuven isle nice 09:57 bitty economy only in that way I will 10:03 say people can feel it's still a hope 10:09 and hope is to help us Up next

how youth china entrepreneurs are coping with livelihoods june 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S5OT2z7T_0

"tian wei"cgtn Avatar image 14:23 / 39:53 CGTN is funded in whole or in part by the Chinese government. Wikipedia World Insight Special – Jobs: The Big Test 602 views•Jul 4, 2020 21 2 SHARE SAVE CGTN 1.75M subscribers How are bright young Chinese, fresh out of college, and many overseas, coping with a global crisis? Their career prospects and sacrifice in their own words, in today's edition of World Insight "Jobs: The Big Test." Subscribe to us on YouTube: https://goo.gl/lP12gA Download our APP on Apple Store (iOS): https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cctvn... Download our APP on Google Play (Android): https://play.google.com/store/apps/de... Follow us on: Website: https://www.cgtn.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChinaGlobalT... 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Walter Blumenthal Walter Blumenthal 1 week ago ❤️ Master of Freedom Master of Freedom 2 weeks ago 共匪 Z Z Z Z 2 weeks ago Can't take the truth, so you erase my message huh? 1 Transcript 00:02 [Music] 00:13 on today's world inside right young 00:17 Chinese fresh out of college 00:19 many will receive how are they coping to 00:22 the global crisis their career prospects 00:25 and sacrifice to their own word in 00:28 today's edition jobs the big tech and I 00:33 know how much in instant so I have to 00:36 advocate and helping them 00:40 [Music] 00:50 hello I'm Kim way and this is world 00:53 insight in Beijing the uncertainty is 00:58 the logic of a world today and things 01:01 have becoming particularly challenging 01:03 with Kobe 19 this is a difficult year 01:07 for all of us but have you ever imagined 01:10 what about those graduating from 01:13 University this year this is exactly the 01:16 first chapter of real life they have to 01:19 face what are they thinking and how are 01:22 they planning for their future there's 01:24 no better way than directly talking to 01:28 some of them and looking for answers 01:30 that's why I'm here in this tiny startup 01:33 company inside Beijing it is run by 01:37 several students fresh out of university 01:40 specializing in providing financial 01:43 services to Chinese overseas students in 01:46 Europe or America however with the 01:48 pandemic the students have all come back 01:51 to China at least some of them and the 01:54 market is gone so how are they going to 01:58 cope with the realities and how do they 02:01 plan for their future let's to talk to 02:04 some of them and find out 02:08 [Music] 02:27 so this is your place yeah we're trying 03:17 to move into the other place since right 03:21 now like this whole office mix only can 03:23 take two how many people's I think so 03:25 for next step we're trying to get a 03:27 place that can hold around 300 to 350 03:30 people so your energy yeah it's hard I 03:44 mean like in pasta like here they try to 03:46 extend the business like like you're 03:48 trying to get more white but like inside 03:51 right now they think the stay focused I 03:53 make the right choice yourself going 03:55 wider they try to go deeper and in this 03:58 way actually 03:59 luckily profit more and acquiring one 04:03 users though yeah so this is the yeah so 04:13 this room like after like two months ago 04:17 like so at that time I barely use that 04:19 so I go out messaging together to 04:22 discuss like you know Jesse is a partner 04:29 okay so all girlfriends become partners 04:32 all the friends become partners yeah but 04:36 would that be more challenging we don't 04:39 working together you know different 04:41 sides of being a friend yes always 04:47 it's a big part of our life my relation 04:52 four hours a day 04:53 yes yes that's PEC a friendship yeah we 04:57 tore this thing office like for Linux 05:01 that every single day it's like never 05:04 leave until 12 o'clock 05:07 his mom's business this is I mean like 05:12 for the original like this is my model 05:17 Thank You beanie actually shift a little 05:19 bit so like in the past they only think 05:22 about tuition payments no this is life 05:24 but start by last year you know not only 05:27 Vista comment like your situation but 05:30 they actually found that the 05:33 relationship between US and China got 05:36 more like the tensions between us I'm 05:38 trying to get more like stress also like 05:43 we can shift the focus not only stay in 05:46 the US but also expand the business into 05:49 the other countries okay yeah yeah yeah 05:53 so right now we are supporting like 17 05:55 countries yes 06:03 yeah yeah like we use like we're going 06:10 to run the like yet the teach like an 06:12 army but like we like it and I like like 06:17 a you know time we actually might know 06:19 based on management book I'm you know 06:21 like the Chinese entrepreneurs like they 06:23 are really good at reading books 06:25 so like it'd be to take some like 06:28 classes and the reader page yeah yeah I 06:40 know that you guys work very hard and I 06:43 know you have also gathered some of your 06:45 friends yes so thank you for arranging 06:51 all these details for coming 06:59 [Music] 07:12 okay so so glad to have all of you here 07:15 with us 07:16 maybe you want to introduce yourself one 07:18 by one toy hey guys I'm told me uh just 07:22 taking a gap year from Harvard Business 07:24 School and right now my friends and I 07:27 are studying up company in the et 07:29 transfer in Beijing and they were able 07:31 to help all the international students 07:34 better to paying their tuitions on 07:35 blogger hello everyone my name is Roger 07:38 and I graduated from Cornell University 07:40 last summer and now I'm I'm in charge of 07:43 the educational institute that in the 07:46 help help overseas students 07:48 transitioning into their role back to 07:51 China and that's what I've been doing 07:52 the past couple of months are you two 07:54 competitors in the way of the world also 07:57 friends at the same time Wow okay 08:01 Phillips higher why my name is Felix I 08:04 just recorded from Columbia University 08:06 this summer and I'm working in the Sonia 08:10 heel-toe I'm Peter 08:12 I just graduated from London Business 08:14 School and now I'm a investment banker 08:16 in China in the International Capital 08:19 Group you're already an investment 08:22 banker the first year coming into the 08:24 company yeah I'm trying to try and be 08:28 trying to be a real one Cecilia hey guys 08:31 I'm Cecilia currently graduated from 08:33 Oxford studying geography and currently 08:36 I'm focusing on doing social 08:37 entrepreneurship education access and 08:39 using media to break that information 08:41 barrier 08:42 okay good to see you Jesse Lohr one long 08:45 time no see yeah Laura I'm Jessie I 08:48 graduated from Cornell University last 08:50 year didn't choose to go to any graduate 08:53 school but joining in easy transfer the 08:56 FinTech company with Tony as his partner 08:58 a side of work also devote my time in my 09:03 NGO Providence Academy to encourage 09:06 overseas student come back to China for 09:08 work or entrepreneurship 09:10 also introducing the development and 09:13 current trends are China to oversee 09:16 student community it's the easy to make 09:19 an impact things are changing so much 09:23 it's changing a lot especially for this 09:27 year you know because the epidemic 09:30 caused a lot of troubles for students to 09:33 travel across the borders but also see 09:36 this as opportunity because we can more 09:39 chance to study online to gain knowledge 09:43 from zoom from thing talk or any other 09:46 platforms I think knowledge should not 09:50 have boundaries and it's opportunity for 09:53 us to cooperate with other universities 09:56 or scholars from other countries to 10:00 develop how we can learn more from each 10:03 others and I think it's a crisis also an 10:05 opportunity for all of us yeah Tony 10:08 obviously our business partner is doing 10:10 good PR obviously so what about I heard 10:15 you screaming oh in the meeting room 10:18 before we start shooting here I'm sure 10:22 that a lot of tough issues you have to 10:23 handle together with Jesse and others 10:25 every day tell me more about that 10:28 yes wholly like I mean like in the past 10:30 like when they talk about like a 10:31 start-up well things like you're going 10:33 really white so we're going to like to 10:36 order like your products going to like 10:39 so the products are globally to every 10:41 single country but now like the 10:43 situation has totally changed so we have 10:45 to instead of going really why we have 10:47 to go really deep so like we have to 10:49 actually spend the money in the red spot 10:51 instead of like you're trying to like 10:53 conquer everything that's the situation 10:57 the problem where are you put your money 11:00 Roger 11:00 where do I put my money I believe in the 11:03 current situation obviously many of the 11:05 customers are in the Rick's risk-averse 11:08 situation right they tend to look at 11:10 things in a different perspective of 11:11 medical vat19 situation so if I have to 11:14 do things and as currently I'm planning 11:16 for my company to invest all the 11:18 possible resources into one thing and 11:20 I'm a firm believer for the fact that a 11:22 good product can sell itself now saying 11:25 that we shouldn't do business 11:26 development now saying that we shouldn't 11:27 go on coke all people but I think the 11:30 core value of any business in the 11:32 strengths that is able to elaborate is 11:35 through its good product so if I have to 11:38 choose in the current situation I'll 11:39 rather do one thing really well instead 11:41 of going really wide on different tasks 11:43 similar to what Tony's said about just 11:46 now well see how things 11:48 Phenix I think it's totally new life and 11:52 new change for me it's totally different 11:54 with what I stay in the university so 11:58 and our goals is a to be the investor of 12:01 the beautiful life so this is a new 12:03 change for me to how to feel and 12:05 peaceful life and how we can change the 12:07 peaceful life is sounds very 12:09 inspirational Cecilia would that be a 12:14 good line already for your mini video 12:16 yeah invest in abuse live so tell me 12:25 more about how you are fitting in I 12:27 guess throughout University I've tried 12:30 out a few different industries and 12:31 careers and when I actually got my 12:34 full-time offer I felt a bit lost so I 12:38 kind of wanted to look for what's the 12:40 actual meaning of life guys that laughs 12:45 and I realized the thing that's change 12:49 me the most is education and I also 12:51 acknowledge that I've been lucky enough 12:53 to have that access to education where 12:56 many people don't and so for me I want 12:59 to do my bits and make education more 13:01 accessible for everybody so that's why 13:04 and I've been part of the mentor and 13:06 mentee ship as well as using social 13:08 media as a way to advance to break 13:12 identity wilderness you see wilderness 13:14 you see yeah yeah yeah 13:21 that's why I've been part of the social 13:24 enterprise where there's going to be 80 13:26 mentors who are helping as many mentees 13:28 as possible who's I'm just part of the 13:30 big game Congrats 13:32 I'm also Peter yeah I heard you are also 13:35 in the investment bank or on your way 13:37 there yeah well we're there we actually 13:40 started work from 9:00 a.m. every day to 13:43 like 4:00 a.m. probably and that and 13:47 then go sleep and start late 13:49 did you like it no it's not around I 13:55 mean I don't I don't quite like it but I 13:57 have to accept it and because that's the 14:01 job I choose that's what I have to do 14:03 what's it for then for helping great 14:06 companies grow for for for the for my 14:10 dream come true 14:11 to do that to help like Green US 14:14 companies to enter Chinese market - 14:17 that's how like finance do you know when 14:20 I look at you and hearing your stories I 14:23 feel inspired but at the same time I do 14:26 have empathy toward where you are today 14:30 Jesse before we sat down you are telling 14:33 me about your last night's conversation 14:36 yeah going back to Ground Zero almost in 14:41 a way so tell me more about that yeah 14:44 like we were sitting there yesterday 14:45 we're talking about this year's our 14:49 marketing it's like everything gonna 14:53 have to start over because the previous 14:56 business model for us it's not exist 14:59 anymore because of the epidemic how come 15:04 we are because everybody is doing social 15:06 distancing with each other and we cannot 15:09 do the the former our business model to 15:12 sell our product I know one major 15:15 problem for 15:17 the overseas thing right now is they 15:18 cannot get off China or they cannot get 15:21 back to China right now because of the 15:23 travel beds so were still trying to 15:27 figure out what's the best solutions for 15:29 us but that's a dilemma for all of the 15:33 companies and all of the young students 15:35 they cannot get back to their family or 15:37 they have huge trouble with their visas 15:40 that is with their graduation with their 15:44 internship a lot of problems fall of us 15:47 so it's probably the most challenging 15:50 it's time for Chinese international 15:52 students it's so hard yeah 15:55 Tony yeah really hard no like I mean 15:58 like if we were we were sitting here 16:00 last night and we're saying that like 16:02 not only the channels of like apparel 16:04 users but also like the target audience 16:06 cool so in the past we don't move beyond 16:09 anything about international Chinese 16:10 students but the problem is right now 16:13 like your students they are getting 16:15 really hard for them to get back to the 16:17 US or get back to China so we have to 16:20 like extend the target audience group to 16:22 like a whole like University students 16:24 instead of focusing on like your one 16:27 country itself I think I see a lot of 16:29 like a service provider in the industry 16:31 they try to like make some change like 16:33 by the beginning of this year but like 16:36 you're now like not only for us but for 16:38 a whole industry it's been like it's so 16:40 hard we have to kinda redo everything so 16:42 your outreach is already there very 16:45 grounded but now that has totally 16:47 changed 16:48 Roget right I I will I will agree the 16:51 fact that the way we do business were 16:53 even the way we interact as people has 16:55 revolutionized in the past couple of 16:56 months and of course that's been 16:58 difficult so I try to find time to cry 17:00 but in the meantime in the meantime I 17:03 understand that let's together time to 17:06 cry but barely barely but I I don't show 17:08 in front of people in this time is it 17:12 provides the opportunity for 17:13 self-reflection so if you can't go out 17:15 and and get the money that you want then 17:17 you put yourself in the position where 17:19 you redesign your product and you think 17:21 of the thing that Plan B's and plan sees 17:24 in order to counter the future I 17:25 expected 17:27 and I think in that way you can find I 17:29 try to find inner peace in a way knowing 17:32 that I shall have the best product so 17:34 when the Albertini doesn't rise and when 17:36 the cycle does go goes up when when it 17:38 hits rock bottom and I'll see the 17:40 opportunity that I that I deserve so 17:42 that's how I make peace with it right 17:44 the three of you are entrepreneurs so 17:46 are you right so see the entrepreneur 17:49 social entrepreneur exactly so what 17:51 about the business that you are in right 17:53 now I would assume extremely competitive 17:55 it's obviously in the media industries 17:57 really saturated and within the charity 18:00 landscape the capital is pretty dry but 18:02 what we can do is to link the two things 18:04 together using medias the means being 18:06 able to promote information and being 18:09 able to break down the information 18:10 barriers as a way to do the social 18:13 enterprise I can feel how you're 18:15 pitching your project we very much 18:18 I mean it's a good project yeah oh it 18:20 sounds good what about for the to love 18:22 you I mean they are starting their own 18:25 businesses but the two of you are 18:27 joining a company you know I think the 18:30 challenge is the same but of different 18:33 nature so tell me more about that 18:35 challenge that part the most difficult 18:38 challenge for me was still paying the 18:40 crew and I had to be the one to fit in 18:43 their atmosphere and they're working you 18:47 know schedules their way of doing out 18:51 things and that's the difficult part for 18:54 me I think which part 18:56 as a student I have my free time to do 19:00 things that that I like I have to play 19:01 basketball you know electronic music but 19:06 as investment banker you have to work 19:09 all day long and yeah and they're 19:12 working off most various like ii just 19:16 working hard no play hard you know you 19:18 don't have the time to play hard and 19:20 that's the that's the difficult part for 19:22 me to get adjusted 19:23 Phenix i remember seeing your photo in 19:27 your friend circle you are in those you 19:30 know jumping suit in a way medical 19:32 jumping suit and big suitcase in the 19:36 hand coming back to china and you said 19:39 finally am back 19:41 obviously you were looking forward to a 19:43 new life a new starting point but how is 19:46 that starting point fitting you right 19:48 now so after I come back I think the 19:51 better way it's just a get into a new 19:54 company to start a new life because of 19:56 University and who the college life is 19:58 just so very different very different 20:01 so how Chi is a work with our College 20:05 how can work with my boss how can learn 20:07 from the process totally different with 20:10 me and other people Peter and has given 20:13 up basketball at least for now 20:16 yeah what about You Felix I keep out the 20:21 clumpy good K out the study if I start a 20:26 new study study difference 20:28 [Music] 20:36 nice to hear all of your stories 20:38 reminds me also of my you know 20:41 graduation days and my typical they are 20:44 feeding into the society but at the same 20:46 time you enjoying an exhilarating trip 20:47 in a way right having said that though 20:51 you know I grew up during the 1980s and 20:56 90s and I feel my life it's like going 21:00 up all the time and the world is getting 21:02 ever bigger for me but you guys when you 21:06 were born the world is already very open 21:08 up to you and you've got the best 21:10 opportunity for education again now just 21:13 when you start your career the world has 21:17 become more divided and the doors are 21:20 closed this is totally different from I 21:23 guess the logic of your educational 21:27 years so how does that work for you are 21:30 you struggling with this I am struggling 21:32 with this Tony yeah like yeah I mean you 21:36 have to be really good in the past I 21:38 mean like all the people like when they 21:40 think about doing business they they're 21:42 all like trying to find opportunities 21:43 for example like people are saying that 21:46 copy form kind of hobby form America in 21:48 the past but now like they're like each 21:51 country's people are doing they're like 21:53 on jobs instead of like extending of 21:55 business globally though so like in like 21:58 if you want to like leave work while 22:00 like you have to actually be super good 22:02 be a pro in the industry and you're 22:04 because it's so competitive so 22:06 competitive yeah you have to compete 22:08 with like all the tycoons like every 22:11 single day and I mean that part is like 22:13 much harder compared to the past I mean 22:15 your business part of it 22:17 Alibaba is also covering that area yeah 22:20 are you saying Tony let me compete with 22:23 you Jack Ma we are where they're 22:26 competing though like yeah I mean like a 22:28 leap a enter into the market this year 22:30 like three months ago and by that's how 22:33 I'm like we fell like a big pressure 22:35 though and you could tell like all the 22:38 team members they are like your kind 22:40 worried even like anxious about the 22:42 conversation but like in my perspective 22:45 actually like commutation did not only 22:48 bring the harmful things but also like a 22:51 bring the like a more of you exactly 22:55 like they they were motivate the whole 22:56 team though so you know it used to be so 22:59 cool let's have an entrepreneurship 23:01 right hmm but now it's about survival 23:04 yeah every day Roger I I'm a strong 23:08 believer of business cycles believing 23:11 that every fifteen to twenty years the 23:14 cycle goes up and down and there's new 23:16 opportunities being come across during 23:18 these cycles and III tend to look at the 23:21 current situation has the market not 23:23 being lethargic but more so more mature 23:27 more educated market where the consumers 23:31 are confronted with similar products but 23:34 with the different edge in the sense 23:37 that drives us being the the product 23:39 creator to to to listen more to the 23:43 customers and then to do more 23:45 self-reflection in a way so that we can 23:47 we can out-compete others or even to 23:50 even to occupy a very minimum share of 23:53 the market but I understand having a 23:55 broader picture I think it creates a 23:56 great opportunity for us to be getting 23:58 more more mature after graduation facing 24:00 all the obstacles and hurdles I think it 24:04 is only opportunity to us because to be 24:06 honest we have nothing to lose at this 24:08 very moment very very that's the other 24:11 side of this picture right that's a 24:13 brighter picture right exactly think 24:15 about what's on how you look at it right 24:17 right and that's important how you look 24:19 at it general it's acedia yeah for sure 24:21 I guess obviously we're Carly in an era 24:23 of globalization right and for me 24:27 initially I was part of initiative that 24:29 does fundraising in London and helps 24:32 Asian women and to be well asian girls 24:34 to be able to access education but 24:37 currently if you look at situation UK 24:39 who's got that spare cash 24:41 people are facing and unemployment all 24:44 these difficulties so at this situation 24:46 you got to pick your own fights right 24:48 what's the most important to me and 24:49 what's actually feasible so I guess 24:51 where I find the most belonging is in my 24:54 own country in China and who I relate to 24:56 the most is the maybe the village of 24:59 girls in China and so I've changed jog 25:02 Rafi and that's why I still do it oh yes 25:04 the coronavirus has put international 25:06 barriers up but because of the internet 25:08 allows you to be able to migrate from 25:10 one daughter fee to another 25:12 mm-hmm and so of course there's going to 25:14 be difficulties and there are but its 25:17 ability to work with what you have and 25:19 how you can adapt to the markets and 25:21 utilizing combining different sources 25:24 and tools together to achieve the end so 25:26 it's a process earlier to explore about 25:29 the outside world now it's a process of 25:31 exploring what you have back at home yes 25:34 I think one a very unique point for me 25:37 to get back to China and start of our 25:40 own business is that I can actually 25:42 learn from my team in China and my 25:46 colleagues what was different cultural 25:49 background when I come back China I'm 25:52 not surprised that people in my company 25:56 they're like really different walks of 26:00 life people are from like different 26:02 cultural backgrounds many of us they 26:04 never get the opportunity to travel 26:07 outside of China but we're together 26:09 working on our same tasks and we share 26:12 our same mission ambition and it's very 26:15 intriguing for me because I get a chance 26:19 to really know about China to know about 26:21 different groups of Chinese that's 26:24 that's I don't have that opportunity 26:26 when I was in America so if you're 26:29 friends you know who used to be your 26:31 classmates or roommate asked you so what 26:34 about China this sounds like a very 26:37 simple question isn't it I mean so many 26:39 people ask us all that all the time but 26:41 now I guess it's a very different way of 26:44 King out this question so what about 26:45 China what would you say to them I would 26:49 say we are trying to let the world know 26:53 more about China because in the process 26:56 of China's rising we need more people to 26:59 understand China and the world to engage 27:02 in this process and that's the first 27:04 thing 27:05 Chinese we're welcoming and second is 27:06 China is very diverse because we have 27:09 what Beijing or Shanghai of Hangzhou is 27:13 very right develop the regions but we 27:16 also have many bridges that are 27:18 relatively unprivileged what the country 27:22 size we have the deep mountain and 27:25 diverse regions the diversity we got a 27:29 lot to explore even for Chinese we got a 27:32 lot to explore and then I would say 27:36 China is how to say China will be more 27:42 and more active in the international 27:46 society will shoulder more 27:48 responsibilities around the goal because 27:51 somebody will see the Potomac as a 27:54 beginning of the globalization but half 27:56 hour opposite opinion I would say it's 28:01 also a great opportunity for China to be 28:05 more open and to share more with the 28:08 world because we are seeing that China 28:10 is sharing they're sharing our 28:13 experience of containing the virus we 28:16 are sharing our RMD about the vaccine 28:19 we're sharing were donating medical 28:24 supplies protective masks to all of the 28:27 countries that's what we didn't do a lot 28:30 before the pandemic but it's a great 28:33 start for China to do it right now we 28:35 are taking more responsibility we're 28:36 starting to taking the lead as a 28:40 responsible country you know because 28:43 China is trying to make sure the border 28:46 are safe at this point of a pandemic and 28:49 therefore people the number of them be 28:52 able to come back will be limited 28:54 however they're enormous 28:56 numbers of the Chinese overseas students 28:59 who want to come back and join their 29:00 family during a difficult time so here 29:03 comes a difficult choice Roger I have 29:07 seen all the facts and then I've read 29:08 news and there are certainly criticisms 29:10 about China in the past couple month but 29:13 I tend to look at things in the brighter 29:14 side we are more more so becoming a 29:17 center stage in the international stage 29:18 what we do well how we behave in 29:20 international behavior in the natural 29:23 circumstances determines a lot of the 29:25 actions of the other countries tend to 29:27 do things like you can't completely 29:29 blame our China for not having people 29:31 coming back United Airline Kenzo there 29:33 there flies first among all the airlines 29:36 and many of the international flights 29:38 canceled even before the outbreak of 29:39 cholera virus so I think what we're 29:42 doing here is that although many of the 29:45 blame are not landing upon us we decided 29:48 to step step up and take on the plane 29:50 and saying that it is our responsibility 29:52 being a great nation at all to help 29:54 those who are in need and especially 29:56 there are all Chinese citizens and I 29:58 think it is a slow process it's a 30:00 meandering process but I think we're 30:02 making good efforts we say Robertson 30:05 sorry in China so you're not worried 30:06 although I'm here many of my family 30:09 members of still oversea and many of my 30:11 enduring friends are still overseas so I 30:13 I do worry about from time to time 30:15 knowing the fact that there's only a 30:17 limited amount of flights coming home 30:19 but at the same time right if you look 30:22 at it in a macro perspective while we 30:24 are now being able to transfer transport 30:26 them back to China we're shipping tons 30:29 and tons of medical supplies using the 30:31 biggest planes that we ever possibly 30:33 could acquire to support those who are 30:35 in need when I was in college I was a 30:37 part of the student organization called 30:40 CSS day the China student scholar 30:41 Association and I'm being constant 30:44 contact wisdom lately and knowing the 30:46 fact that they with collaborations with 30:49 the embassies in Washington DC 30:52 they have shipped out more than 10,000 30:55 supplies of medical supplies masks and 30:58 anti anti virus wipes - who - the 31:02 students who are still on campus so 31:04 there are absolutely efforts being made 31:05 and the media tend to focus on the 31:08 negatives 31:09 because that's where the story comes 31:10 from but if you have come down to the to 31:13 a personal contact to the personal 31:15 connection of things you've seen their 31:17 enormous effort being made so silly I 31:19 think it's true and I think what we need 31:21 to remember is that these are 31:22 unprecedented times we're going to use 31:26 the similar strategy to solve everything 31:28 so I think both in terms of China and 31:31 different organisation on the world 31:32 we're trying our best I'm moving at the 31:34 fast speed as we can and there will be 31:36 learning curves but whenever something 31:38 like this happen again we will be better 31:39 to fight the battle mm-hmm Peter yeah 31:43 definitely I I totally agree with Roger 31:45 and also I actually just got back from 31:49 UK at an end after of the join and that 31:56 was a hard trip but I totally understand 31:58 what's the situation 32:00 I would rather like trust so like in 32:03 different situation you have to trust 32:05 like all the people in the right 32:06 position making the right like at 32:09 decisions and that will make everyone 32:11 life much easier though so stop 32:13 questioning just like your own heart but 32:16 what you have learned on University 32:18 campus it's about critical thinking yeah 32:21 you are saying stop questioning I mean 32:23 like this goes against at least 32:25 superficially what you learned not quite 32:28 the same though like he's all like any 32:29 more about that if you're only thinking 32:31 about yourself then like you everything 32:34 like you you will start like your play 32:36 more like your question other like 32:37 decisions well like if you think you're 32:41 will the whole problems in the level of 32:43 the whole country that actually will 32:45 change a lot of yourself so you have to 32:48 actually position yourself in the right 32:50 spot I feel like all the decisions will 32:53 make the reasons well you're a 32:55 struggling many of our peers in the US 32:57 or in the UK are also struggling in a 32:59 different way about different issues you 33:02 saw the demonstrations black lives 33:04 matter how do you make of those things 33:06 that are happening parallel to your life 33:10 here Roger 33:12 there are two things I like to throw how 33:13 is the first is social social certainty 33:17 also at the same time phrase 33:19 change right and there's a with the 33:21 situation would be facing all around the 33:23 world changes definitely had to be made 33:25 rather it is pushed by the people war is 33:27 it legislations or other related areas 33:29 so looking at social stability because 33:33 purely in constant fear and constant 33:34 panic I think it was a natural reaction 33:36 in addition to that I think social 33:39 changes is how the entire society move 33:42 forward and because just and also 33:45 because people are saying at home not 33:47 having many things to do and our 33:48 employments I record-high they were able 33:51 to have this time for self-reflection no 33:53 thinking about what could the society to 33:55 be better I'm at the same time me being 33:57 a part of the society what can I do more 33:59 of course Eredar that violence being 34:01 involved but but that that's just a sigh 34:04 politics of changes okay right now the 34:08 the whole humanity is facing three major 34:11 challenges the first is a topic 34:13 challenge and then the second is social 34:16 turbulence as you said and the third one 34:19 is the downwards of economy these are 34:24 challenges shared by all humankind 34:26 although is probably safer and a more 34:31 peaceful in China but all of us should 34:34 also have to empathy to the other parts 34:38 where people are suffering because we 34:43 are all part of this this bigger 34:46 community I'm sure you have much better 34:49 idea about how things are but I'm 34:51 struggling every day that you know what 34:53 we have learned over the years probably 34:56 even decade about you know globalization 34:58 about everybody has equal opportunities 35:01 about you know diversity about freedom 35:06 and are these just preaching of ideas to 35:11 us or are these like real fundamental 35:16 values that we should all no matter 35:19 under what circumstances should strive 35:22 for you know at a time of survival 35:25 people show their true colors 35:29 either it's rock-bottom or it's pretty 35:33 inspiring I don't know what you think 35:37 about that but I'm struggling with it so 35:40 see I did i express myself clearly I 35:42 think there's a lot of nuances to unpack 35:45 and globalization definitely came with 35:48 its own agenda I think on the road to 35:53 more equality and being able to produce 35:57 opportunities for people from different 35:59 geographies different backgrounds that's 36:01 an endless journey and so I actually 36:04 believe every change what witnessing 36:07 right now is going to create a better 36:09 future whether that's in public health 36:11 emergency responses and as you were 36:13 mentioning the black life matters 36:14 movement is a deep inequality that 36:17 happens I'm sure everyone here when 36:19 we're studying internationally with face 36:21 races experiences right and so it's 36:25 something that we've been part of and 36:27 now in some ways obviously I don't 36:28 promote violent protests but I think 36:31 these changes are happening you're good 36:32 and and eventually it will bring a 36:35 better outcome 36:36 I hope so Peter yeah definitely they all 36:40 say we have lots of control over you 36:42 know people during the time but when the 36:46 epidemic happens china was actually the 36:48 quickest and the first country to 36:51 control the epidemic but even us people 36:55 are fighting for their freedom they 36:58 don't want to self isolating their whole 37:00 and they don't want to you know 37:03 information track about their about 37:06 their locations but when that happened 37:08 we can see in the US that that rate is 37:11 really high right now and the the damage 37:13 is really hard to control so that 37:16 actually leads me to think about what 37:19 the democracy or the communist that 37:21 remains I'm not sure whether that equals 37:23 to a communism or democracy 37:28 maybe it's relevant in the way what's 37:31 your plan let's just say over the rest 37:35 of this year Roger for short-term calls 37:38 just stay alive right 37:39 at the same time it's definitely 37:42 uncertain times so what I'm trying to do 37:44 is to enjoy failure and try to learn 37:46 something from it so when the next time 37:48 when the cycle goes down once again I 37:51 think I'll be ready for the rest of my 37:52 life 37:53 isn't he a sunshine gentleman well I'm 37:56 just trying to put that positive energy 37:58 out there going even like nowadays when 38:01 we start up the business like my like 38:04 original like your dream job was like a 38:06 becoming teacher though so I want to 38:08 actually influence more people helping 38:10 more people like and students though so 38:12 I feel like all my team members as my 38:14 students so like it for the next year or 38:16 two like I want to actually need more 38:19 students like they most of them choose 38:22 our company as they are forces stopped 38:24 right after graduation and I know how 38:26 much it means to them so I have to 38:29 actually change the moment and helping 38:32 them more yeah cherish the moment you're